DR. ALAN SABROSKY: THE MILITARY KNOWS ISRAEL DID 911


Aired March 20, 2010
Transcript of a conversation between Dr. Sabrosky, Mark Glenn and PhilTourney
Mark Glenn: Dr. Sabrosky, welcome to the program.

Dr. Alan Sabrosky: Thank youvery much, Mark. A pleasure to be here.

MG: Well, believe me,the pleasure is ours. As I said, this article that you wrote this week ~ thereare very few articles that really catch my attention these days, as you canunderstand, Dr. Sabrosky, because there’s just so much information out thereand so many people talking.
But thisone particularly caught my interest and held my interest throughout theduration of reading this article ~ which I will be reading here in just aminute.
Butbefore I jump into that I’m just going to go ahead and give you the floor here,and let you say some things that I think need to be said.

AS: Mark, we had talked aboutthis earlier and, you know, my feelings are that I’m perfectly willing todebate issues with anyone on any subject. Most of us have different views ofthings and none of us, I think, believes we have the entire truth forourselves. Anyone who does is a fool.

On the subject that I wrote this time, it caught my attention as well becauseif there is anything that is more significant it is loyalty: loyalty tocountry, loyalty to people, loyalty to constitution. And to my displeasure andmy shame ~ because I have some Jewish relatives, none of whom are Zionist ~ a largemajority of American Jews give their allegiance to a foreign country.

They may have Americancitizenship, but their allegiance is to Israel.
And as I said in thepiece, this is a form of political bigamy which is every bit as dishonest asmarital bigamy. I’m not married now, but when I was, loyalty to my spouse wasabsolute. It has to be there. I could look and say, “Aha! there is FarrahFawcett,” and I could admire someone out there but I didn’t give thatperson my allegiance.
There’s a differencebetween admiring from a distance and giving allegiance to that thing. And it’sthe same with a country.

Some of my [American] relatives are German, some are Irish, and all of themhave a measure of allegiance to those cultures, but it’s not a politicalallegiance. It’s a social allegiance. It’s like, “We’re going to stand upon St Patrick’s Day,” or “We’re going to stand up onOktoberfest,” or “We’re going to celebrate this,” and we’reproud of being German, or Irish, or whatever it happens to be.

But none of us givesour allegiance to Ireland or to Germany. Jews do. And if we don’t say it ~ Idon’t care if we’re called anti-Semites or not ~ if we don’t stand up and say,
“Truthis truth, their allegiance is to a foreign country, they are traitors,” thenwe’re dishonest to ourselves.

MG: It would be one thing if they had allegiance to thisforeign country, and this foreign country’s national interests mimicked ours -but this isn’t the case. The third leg of this chair here today is a man whoexperienced first-hand the fact that the national interests of this othercountry are not the same as the national interests of this country.

AS: But it’s even more thanthat, Mark. I’ve had a bitter argument with one of my Jewish cousins who movedto Israel and kept an American citizenship. If someone loves another countryenough to go there: more power to them. They go, that’s it ~ they’re gone.

But they keep theAmerican citizenship so that they can continue to participate in our elections,stand in our offices ~ look at Rahm Emanuel: he served in the Israeliarmed forces, not in the American armed forces, and he is easily the secondmost powerful person in this country ~ easily.

That’s treason. I will tell you right now: if Palestinians had the sameinfluence in America I would oppose them in the same way. I don’t care what thecountry is, what the allegiance is, what matters to me is that if you areAmerican, you love this country first, last, and that’s the end of it.

And I don’t care ifyou’re Navy, Marine, whatever you are.
Phil, you and I willprobably agree on this and probably one of the few things that a Navy andMarine guy would agree on, but I think both of us would agree that loyalty toAmerica is the only non-negotiable part of American citizenship.
 
Phil Tourney (USS Liberty Survivor): Absolutely,Alan, and I’ll tell you, you being a United States Marine, that is inbred inyou, and being a Marine ~ semper fidelis, always faithful ~ you’refaithful to your country; and I’m sorry you had the argument with your cousinbut you’re still faithful to your country and I understand exactly where you’recoming from.

Mark, I don’t think at the beginning of the show that you read the Doctor’scredentials off. I wish you would, because it means a lot, and it means a lotto me to hear them.

MG: Absolutely, and I will do that right now since I’m aboutto launch into reading this excellent article. Alan Sabrosky (Ph.D, Universityof Michigan) is a ten-year US Marine Corps veteran and a graduate of the USArmy War College.

Now, not only that ~ Dr. Sabrosky correct me if I’m wrong here ~ not only areyou a graduate of the US Army War College, but you were a director of studiesthere for some period of time ~ is that correct?

AS: That’s correct. For five-and-a-half years.
 
MG: Five-and-a-halfyears as director of studies at the US Army War College. You know, of all thethings that I would love to have trailing behind my name, Dr. Sabrosky, beingthe director of studies at the US Army War College would definitely be one ofthem.

AS: Thank you very much, I appreciate that.
 
MG: Alright, ladies andgentlemen, as much as it’s going to appear as if I’m acting as a school momhere in reading this article to you. Nevertheless, I’m going to do it.
Not as anintellectually insulting gesture towards you – because I know you can all readvery well – but I was so impressed with this article that I want it enteredinto the record here within the context of this conversation, and that’s thereason I’m going to read it. (reads The Dark Face of Jewish Nationalism below reportby Dr. Sabrosky)
So writesAlan Sabrosky PhD, former director of studies at the U.S. Army War College.

Dr. Sabrosky, I cannot think of an article that Ihave read in recent memory that basically sums up the problem that we aredealing with right now as accurately and as succinctly as this essay that youhave written.

You have,for all intents and purposes, nailed this thing on the head.
I guessthe reason why I got so excited over this article, Dr. Sabrosky, is because oneof things that I have noted about the problem that we’re dealing with ~ interms of Zionism, the power of the Jewish lobby, and what-not ~ is thateverything is shrouded in some type of confusion or mystery, and I thinkdeliberately so. I think one of the biggest components to this powerful foreigninterest being able to get as far as it has.
I mean,let’s face it: it got away with attackinga United States ship for close to twohours killing 34 men ~ this was an act of war, they got away withit.
Not onlydid they get away with it, they were rewarded with three-billion dollars a year minimum.
When welook at the two wars that the United States finds herself in, and on the cuspof at least two others, and all of this for the benefit of a certain foreigncountry sitting on the eastern shores of the Mediterranean Sea ~ they have beenwildly successful at bringing all of this about and I think one of the maincomponents of this is the fact that very few people really understand thenature of the problem ~ and I think that your article here basically lays outthe problem, which is that when you have people that try to make this claimthat they are loyal to America and, at the same time, loyal to a foreigngovernment, it is a lie.

AS: It is, and it’s more thanthat, Mark. What we need to stand up and say is that not only did they attackthe USS Liberty, they did 9/11. They did it.

I have had longconversations over the past two weeks with contacts at the Army War College, atthe Headquarters Marine Corps, and I have made it absolutely clear in bothcases that it is 100% certain that 9/11 was a Mossad operation. Period.

You know, Phil, I don’t denigrate what happened to USS Liberty in the slightest~ you understand that ~ but for most Americans what happened to the USS Liberty,or in Vietnam, was history. Now this is history. You know, they can beconcerned about it, but they’re not going to get mad about it.

9/11 has led directly to 60,000 Americans dead and wounded, God knows how manyhundreds of thousands of people in other countries that we’ve killed or woundedor made homeless, and it’s an on-going sore. It’s not your sore from the USS Liberty;it’s not my sore from Vietnam. Both of us have those, both of us care about.But this is an open wound.  

And whatAmericans need to understand is that they did it. They did it. And ifthey do understand that, Israel’s going to disappear. Israel will flat-assdisappear from this Earth.

I sent a film to one of my colleagues and it basically had Americans grievingover their dead coming back. And I showed one of them ~ it was a woman ~ justwrenched by grief over her dead soldier. And I said, you know, if Americansever know that Israel did this, they’re going to scrub them off the Earth, andthey’re not going to give a rat’s ass ~ forgive my language ~ what the cost is.
They are not going tocare. They will do it. And they should.
And they should.
 
PT: Alan, your articleand your heart and your testimony and what you believe in is heart-wrenching tome. It is like our founding fathers, and their shadows, talking and saying,
“Wehave to fix this, we have to make our own way, and we have to do it now, or wewill go down.”
AS: Exactly. Absolutely, Phil. I agree fully.
 
PT: Your article needsto be shipped off to the library of congress immediately.

AS: Well, I can tell you it’sbeing read by some people in Headquarters Marine Corps and at the Army WarCollege. I sent it off to them this past week and I’ve had some longdiscussions with people up there, and there’s some really, really unhappypeople.
 
MG: What are theysaying, if you can talk about that, Dr. Sabrosky?
AS: Astonishment. The first thing, Mark, isastonishment. They didn’t know. They truly didn’t know. And these are notunintelligent people. They really didn’t know.
And the next statementis rage. Real rage. And the Zionists are playing this as truly anall-or-nothing exercise, because if they lose this one, if the American peopleever realize what happened, they’re done.

And I will tell you frankly ~ I don’t think either one of you has any Jewishancestry. I do. You know, I have one grandparent who’s Jewish. As Phil Weiss from Mondoweisswere talking about it ~ he’s a Jewish guy who puts a lot of critical stuff outthere on Israel ~ and I said for the Orthodox Rabbinate I’m not a Jew. For theNazis, I’ve been there.

And if this explodes,I’m going to go down with the rest of them. And I know this. I flat-out knowthis. But if that was the price for making America whole again…

When I took my oath 51 years ago to the United States Marine Corps, no onepromised us life. No one did. They promised us duty and loyalty and service ~and maybe death. And that’s how they talked to us in 1959. I don’t think theytalk to them that way anymore. But in 1959 they did, and if my death were arequirement for the saving of America ~ well, hell, I could’ve died in Vietnam.

It’s my service, mycountry, my corps. And, Phil, it’s like you in the Navy: we signed onto this,and we love our service. And none of us wishes to die. Certainly I don’t. Idon’t think either one of you guys do.
But if that’s theprice, then that’s the price I pay. I mean that.
 
PT: When you’re talkingabout Marines, I have the utmost respect and I know your duty to country. Whenthe torpedo hit our ship and I opened up to scuttle, guess who I pulled out ofthere: a United States marine, named Bryce Lockwood. And he was holding on to anothersailor and saved his life, and he received a silver star. God bless him forthat.

And I understand wholeheartedly what’s in your heart, because I have it myheart. I didn’t learn it by becoming a sailor as such, but I learned it throughthe grace of God for saving our ship, I learned it through scholars like you,I’ve learned it through good friends like Mark Glenn and my shipmates – andI’ve learned it through actions of Israel.

And whenyou struck me very, very hard just a second ago when you talked about 911.You’re very willing to say that, yeah, they did it: 911.Yes, they did. And, you know, my heart broke. And I saw that plane ~ the lastone ~ go into the tower. And to see that…
I mean, Iknow it’s in your heart, and Mark’s, and everybody else’s, to see your fellowAmericans being slaughtered and murdered just as they did the USS Liberty.Alan, it is something that, if we don’t talk about it, if we don’t tell peopleabout it ~ I believe God wants us to ~ and if we don’t: shame on us.
AS: I agree very much on that side, and I’ll tell you ~I have a dream, as Martin Luther King, Jr. once said, and my dream is that the5th and 6th US fleets take Israel and cream it.
And that’s the end ofit.
 
MG: Just for the record,Dr. Sabrosky, it was about three years ago ~ and I can remember distinctly Iwas on a radio program in the run-up to the reunion that Liberty guys weregoing to be having in DC ~ and I made a prediction on the air that I believedwith all my heart at the time and I believe with all my heart now, but someday,some way.
I don’tknow exactly how it’s going to happen ~ I have my suspicions ~ but someday andsome way, maybe a lot sooner than any of us realize, the United States is goingto find herself at war with Israel. And I mean a real, live shooting war.

Now, technically speaking, we are at war with her because she is at war withus. She is out to destroy us. We just haven’t figured it out yet.

My personal prediction is that probably – again, sooner than any of us realizeor would like to envision ~ Israel is going pull off another 9-11. She’sgoing to pull off another USS Liberty.

Obviously,some pretty powerful people in some pretty prominent places, such as Chairmanof the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Mike Mullen, believe this is a possibilitybecause he cut short a trip he made to Europe a few years ago to hastily fly toIsrael to meet with his counterpart and warn him in no uncertain terms how importantit was that there not be another USS Liberty part two.

So, in as far as what you two fellows were just talking about, that we need totalk about this, I’m going to offer another theory here for discussion.

We wouldalready have had that 9/11 part two, or that USS Liberty part two– that would already have been a fait accompli were it not for the fact that agrowing number of people have been talking about this problem since 9/11.

I think that Israel has been watching all of this and has been saying,

“Weneed to kind of let things cool a little bit for now – if we try to pullanother one off right now then that’s it: we’re going to blow our cover.”
AS: It’s not only a matter of blowing our cover. IfAmericans ever truly understand that ~ they’re history. It’ll be a bloody,brutal war ~ and they’re gone. I mean, it’s not even going to be a closecontest. And they know that.
What theyunderstand, I think, as well, is that their leverage is on the politicalappointments. Their leverage is not in the uniformed services.

If you pick up the Army Times, or the Navy Times, or any of thejournals of any of the services you’ve got a very different view than you getlooking at the Congress and the White House. And the military has not beenbought. The military is loyal but it has not been bought.
And if it everunderstands this ~ really, really, deeply understands this ~ and this is what Igot when I put some of these things to the Army War College and to HeadquartersMarine Corps ~ and I mentioned to a contact in Headquarters Marine Corps, Isaid,
“You know they did9/11…,” and it was, “You don’t mean it.” I said,”Absolutely”.
And if they everunderstand that, these people are history.
 
MG: Well, now let me askyou something, Doctor, and obviously I understand that we need to protect thenames of the innocent here…

AS: There are no innocent![laughter]
 

PT: I agree.

MG: I’d like to know a little bit more about this. I mean,these conversations that you’re having with your colleagues who are stillserving in uniform. What is the reaction on their part when you tell themthings like this?
 
AS: First is disbelief, and what I show themimmediately afterwards is an interview with a Danish demolitions expert named DannyJowenko, and it shows the third building at the World Trade Center going down ~WTC7.
And they look at that,and I said,
“Now youunderstand that if one of the buildings was wired for demolition, all ofthem were wired for demolition.”
And that’s it. That’sthe tipping point.

I mean, getting into arguments about who was flying what, and where they were,and whether there was nano-thermite ~those things are true, but they’re incidental. The thing that’s necessary is totell people: three buildings went down; the third was not hit by a plane, itwas wired for controlled demolition, therefore, all of them were wired forcontrolled demolition.

And at that point thereaction is rage. First disbelief and then rage.
 
MG: Well, I’ve got totell you, that I find to be very encouraging because based upon the cursoryconversations I have with some military people ~ and I have to be real carefulabout what I say because you just don’t know what you’re walking into when youstart a discussion of this type with one of them ~ based upon these cursoryconversations that I’ve had with some of them, they’re clueless and they don’twant to hear about it.
They areloyal to the flag that is on their left sleeve as a patch, and the thought thatthe government could be in any way involved in any kind of high crimes andtreason against the people of the United States is just unthinkable to them, soI’m glad to hear that there still is some grey matter and some patriotism left ~at least in the circles where you travel, Dr. Sabrosky.
 
AS: Well, it’s not that they don’t want to hear it,it’s that don’t know of it.
What I have done whenI’ve presented it to these people and I said,
“Just look at this~ just look at this picture. I’m not going to give you an argument ~ just lookat it.”
And they look at thefilm and without exception they come back and they say, “They did it,didn’t they.”
I said, “Yep ~they did it.”
 
PT: Can I jump in herefor a second ~ I just wanted to mention, talking about military people, some ofthe most distinguished military people that I’ve ever had the pleasure to bearound… Admiral Thomas Moore, former Joint Chiefs of Staff which supported uscompletely in the USS Liberty investigation, and so on and so forth.

And then Ray Davis – he was a commandant of the United States Marine Corps. Hedirectly said – this is of course not going into 911 ~ that the USS Liberty was not a mistaken identity, itwas an act of cold-blooded, premeditated murder. So there are people out therein the military.

Now these guys were retired at the time – but when you’re educating people,like you’re doing, Alan, people who serve in the military now, you’re exactlyright: they just don’t know, because nobody knows. It’s been hid up.

Everything’sbeen hid.
It’s beencovered up so good it’d almost take a Messiah to get us out of this thing.

MG: Dr. Sabrosky, I wanted to ask you – since we are to acertain degree prognosticating today, and making predictions ~ what do youthink is going to happen here?

I mean, I was having a conversation with someone the other day about thissituation with Iran, and the fact of the matter is that irrespective of whetheror not Iran is actually actively engaged in building a nuclear weapon, or not,the fact of that is that Israel cannot afford to have this war not take place.

There hasto be something that takes place, even if it’s just lobbing a couple of bombsinto Iran and then really spectacularising it through their control of themedia.
They haveto do something to recoup some of their public image, so would you agree withme on that, and assuming that you do agree with me on that, what do you thinkIsrael is going to be doing in the near future.

AS: We’re going to have a war with Iran.And my guess is that the Arab Street is going to explode.

PT: I agree.

AS: And American forces,American units, like 5th fleet headquarters in Bahrain, the rest ofit ~ there’s going to be a casualty list that we’re not even going to care tothink about.
 
PT: Alan, I think thisthing was predestined from day one. It started in Afghanistan. They go to Iraq,and Iran has been the big prize all along. What do you think?

AS: Yes. No question at all. Andin fact if the Iraqi resistance hadn’t been so strong it would have alreadyhappened in the second Bush administration.
 

PT: Absolutely. I agree100%.

MG: So all of this reticence, reluctance ~ whatever you wantto call it ~ what appears to be reticence and reluctance on the part of theObama administration ~ what do you think is going on? I mean, look, just thispast week we had some what I consider pretty dramatic things being said on thepart of the Obama administration with regards to Israel with the settlements andwhat-not.
What isthis? Is this just posturing on the part of the Obama Administration or arethey really trying to pull back on their end?

AS: The Obama Administrationhasn’t withheld a single dollar, a single plane ~ nothing. Words are cheap.

The Israelis made a tactical error in that they insulted Biden ~ and Biden isnot one of my favorite people, but he is a street smart guy and he doesn’t likebeing humiliated. This is a given.

But nothing hashappened to affect in a tangible sense anything that we’re giving to Israel.Nothing. And as long as nothing happens to tangibly affect what we’re giving tothem, nothing else will matter.
 
MG: Why are we notalready at war with Iran then?

AS: Partly because we can’t find a good enoughexcuse for it that will allow us to sidestep what we’re doing inAfghanistan and, to a lesser extent, Iraq. It’s that there’s just a little toomuch there.

I’m pretty sure that the pattern was:

·   Afghanistan in 2001
·   Iraq 2003
·   Iran 2005
·   Syria 2007
The problem was thatthe Iraqi resistance didn’t let that happen.
So now the time frameis a little bit different, and I’m not sure how that’s going to play out, but Ithink that the way we’re going to it is to try and create an excuse for awar.

And after the war takesplace people can question it, but it doesn’t change the fact of the war.
 
MG: You’re right. Ifthere’s anything that we learned from Vietnam it’s that once the troops arecommitted, right or wrong, you stand by the troops. That’s one of the thingsthat I noticed with the first Gulf war, and this is before I knew anythingabout anything.

I thought, boy, when you look at the kind of protests that took place ~ and Iwas in college at the time of the first Gulf War ~ when you look at the kind ofprotests that took place during Vietnam ~ and of course on college you had afew people grumbling and saying this and saying that but, in general, theNeo-Cons really played the whole Vietnam thing beautifully ~ if such a word canbe used for something as tragic as that.

And don’tmisunderstand me, Dr. Sabrosky: I know that you’re a Vietnam vet and I holdthese guys in the highest regards too, and when I say they played this thingbeautifully, they made the protesters look like these grotesque, ugly,unpatriotic people to the point where, when the next big war started, nobodywould dare raise their voice up against the troops the way that they did inVietnam.
AS: Yep, absolutely on it. Mark, I’m going to have toseparate in just a minute. If I could make sort of a concluding statement…And I think that you would second me on this.

Nothing to me is more important than loyalty to or allegiance to my country.Nothing is. But that requires my country and my government to also behave in anhonorable fashion. Our government, today, does not behave in an honorablefashion.

And there is somethingin the Declaration of Independence which says that whenever any form ofgovernment becomes oppressive of these ends it is the right and duty of thepeople to alter or abolish it, and I think we have gone to the point where weneed to alter or abolish it.
And I say that as a manwho spent his entire life loyal to the United States.
 
PT: I understand you.God bless you for that. God bless you.

MG: Ladies andgentlemen: “The Dark Face of Jewish Nationalism” (below report). Lookit up on the internet ~ I don’t think you’re going to have any trouble findingit. Written by our very good friend and special guest tonight: Dr. AlanSabrosky.

Doctor, Ihope we will be lucky enough to have you back on the program in the nearfuture, and in the mean time please keep up your excellent work. Honestly, asmuch as this is going to sound like posturing to you, there are very fewpeople, as I said, who say anything that really causes me to take a double-takeand to sit down and pay attention, and you’re definitely one of them.
AS: I appreciate that, Mark. You take care ofyourself.  Phil, warmest regards. Semper fi to you, my friend.
 
PT: Semper fi.God bless you, sir, and we will talk again

 

Israel did 9/11, ALL THE PROOF INTHE WORLD!! 

Dr.Alan Sabrosky, former director of studies at the US Army War College says thatthe military brass now know that Israel and those traitors within our nationcommitted the 911 attack
By Dr. Alan Sabrosky
March 19, 2010
AlanSabrosky (Ph.D., University of Michigan) is a writer and consultantspecializing in national and international security affairs. In December 1988,he received the Superior Civilian Service Award after more than five years ofservice at the U.S. Army War College as Director of Studies, Strategic StudiesInstitute, and holder of the General of the Army Douglas MacArthur Chair ofResearch.

He is listed in WHO’S WHO IN THE EAST (23rd ed.).

A MarineCorps Vietnam veteran and a 1986 graduate of the U.S. Army War College, Dr.Sabrosky’s teaching and research appointments have included the United StatesMilitary Academy, the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS),Middlebury College and Catholic University; while in government service, heheld concurrent adjunct professorships at Georgetown University and the JohnsHopkins University School of Advanced International Studies (SAIS).

Dr. Sabrosky has lectured widely on defense and foreign affairs in the UnitedStates and abroad.

You canemail Dr. Alan Sabrosky at: docbrosk@comcast.net
 
Israeli PrimeMinister Binyamin Netanyahu onceremarked to a Likud gathering that “Israel is not like othercountries.”
Oddlyenough for him, that time he was telling the truth and nowhere is that moreevident than with Jewish nationalism, whether or not one pins the”Zionist” label on it.

Nationalism in most countries and cultures can have both positive and negativeaspects, unifying a people and sometimes leading them against their neighbors.Extremism can emerge, and often has, at least in part in almost everynationalist/independence movement I can recall (e.g., the French nationalistmovement had The Terror, Kenya’s had the Mau Mau, etc.).

But whereas extremism in other nationalist movements is an aberration,extremism in Jewish nationalism is the norm, pitting Zionist Jews (secular orobservant) against the goyim (everyone else), who are either possible predator or certainprey, if not both sequentially.

This doesnot mean that all Jews or all Israelis feel and act this way, by any means. Butit does mean that Israel today is what it cannot avoid being, and what it wouldbe under any electable government (a point I’ll develop in another article).

The differences between Jewish nationalism (Zionism) and that of othercountries and cultures here I think are fourfold:

1.

Zionismis a real witches’ brew of xenophobia, racism, ultra-nationalism, andmilitarism that places it way outside of a “mere” nationalist context ~ for example, when I was in Ireland (both parts) I saw no indicationwhatsoever that the PIRAs or anyone else pressing for a united Ireland had ashred of design on shoving Protestants into camps or out of the country,although there may well have been a handful who thought that way ~ and goes farbeyond the misery for others professed by the Nazis.

2.
Zionismundermines civic loyalty among its adherents in other countries in a way thatother nationalist movements (and even ultra-nationalist movements like Nazism)did not – e.g., a large majority of American Jews, including those who are notopenly dual citizens, espouse a form of political bigamy called “dualloyalty” (to Israel & the US) that is every bit as dishonest asmarital bigamy, attempts to finesse the precedence they give to Israel over theUS (lots of Rahm Emanuelsout there who served in the IDF but NOTin the US armed forces), and has absolutely no parallel in the sense ofnational or cultural identity espoused by any other definable ethnic or racialgroup in America – even the Nazi Bund in the US disappeared once Germany andthe US went to war, with almost all of its members volunteering for the USarmed forces.

3.
The”enemy” of normal nationalist movements is the occupying power andperhaps its allies, and once independence is achieved, normal relations withthe occupying power are truly the norm, but for Zionism almost everyone outthere is an actual or potential enemy, differing only in proximity andplacement on its very long list of enemies (which is now America’s targetlist).
4.
Almostall nationalist movements (including the irredentist and secessionist variants)intend to create an independent state from a population in place or to reunitea separated people (like the Sudeten Germansin the 1930s) ~ it is very rare for it to include the wholesale displacement ofanother indigenous population, which is far more common of successfulcolonialist movements as in the US ~ and perhaps a reason why most Americanswouldn’t care too much about what the Israelis are doing to the Palestinianseven if they DID know about it, is because that is no different than whatEuropeans in North America did to the Indians/Native Americans here in a longer& more low-tech fashion.
Theimplications of this for Middle East peace prospects, and for othercountries in thrall to their domestic Jewish lobbies or not, are chilling.
The Bookof Deuteronomy come to life in a state with a nuclear arsenal would beenough to give pause to anyone not bought or bribed into submission – whichthese days encompasses the US Government, given Israel’s affinity for throwingcrap into the face of the Obama administration and Obama’s visible affinityfor accepting it with a smile, Bibi Netanyahu’s own “Uncle Tom” cometo Washington.

The late General Moshe Dayan,who ~ Zionist or not ~ remains an honored part of my own Pantheon of militaryheroes, allegedly observed that Israel’s security depended on its being viewedby others as a mad dog. He may have been correct.

But heneglected to note that the preferred response of everyone else is to kill thatmad dog before it can decide to go berserk and bite.

It is an option worth considering.

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